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Oct 12, 2012 3:00pm PDT
for tuning in. tonight's lead, no hiding from biden. for months mitt romney and paul ryan have been running from their records, hiding their extreme far right agenda behind platitudes and big promises, trying to pin them down on specifics was like trying to nail jello to the wall. but that all stopped last night. we'll talk about all of it in the show tonight, how vice president biden took the fight to paul ryan on issue after issue. on taxes, on medicare, on abortion, on their plan to privatize social security and to gut medicare. joe biden simply dismantled the romney/ryan world view. but also talk about how the right wingers are trying to make a big deal out of joe biden's smile. so what? i would have been outright laughing in paul ryan's face. joe biden was fed up and who could blame him? >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what do you mean a bunch of stuff? >> it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> thanks for the translation. okay. >> malarkey. a bunch of stuff.
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 5:00pm PDT
't tell where he stands. will ryan be ryan tonight or a second best romney? force him to middle that decision. make him choose every minute, joe biden, between being his ideological self and being just another pal. that's what i'd do tonight to him. i'd force him. >> that question of distance between romney and ryan and whether there is any i think is going to be the most interesting thing to watch for on the republican side tonight, chris. i agree with you there. lawrence o'donnell is in the spin room at the debate in danville, kentucky. lawrence, what are you looking to tonight in terms of differences of the debate last week? >> well, the rules are somewhat different, rachel. they're attempting to get to more topics tonight. last week, the design was six top topics. jim lehrer only had time for five because basically the candidates went longer in every section. the idea, tonight, is in this 90-minute debate, there will be nine topics, ten minutes each for the nine topics. but each candidate will begin each topic with a two-minute statement. so let's assume for a moment that ea
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 6:00am PDT
promised a relentless prosecution of the ryan budget. >> governor romney has embraced the ryan budget. well, he has. he's gone back and said, no, he agrees with it. i just want to make sure that, when i say these things, that i don't have the congressman saying, no, no, no, i don't have that position, or that's not the governor's position. >> expect biden to be more pointed and tough than the president was. the question, how aggressive will he be? he doesn't want to come off as unlikable or condescending. one thing biden has going for him, his, quote, unquote, gaffes. in a new pew poll, voters narrowly say they expect ryan to win tonight's debate in a 40-34 margin. although ryan is trying to down play expectations. >> joe biden has been on this stage many times before, and this is my first time. sure, it's a nervous situation because joe biden is one of the most experienced debaters we have in modern politics. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> and ryan is dealing with unrealistic pressure. the base of his party thinks of biden the same way democrats thought about
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 6:00pm PDT
today, but it portends a bigger fundamental shift that has just had to happen in the romney/ryan campaign. now, over and over and over again on this campaign, on issues big and small, the romney/ryan campaign before today has been able to use one particular technique to escape the consequences of having unpopular policy ideas or policy ideas they don't particularly want to defend. they do this same thing over and over again, and usually, it works for them. here's the pattern. here's the pattern they have established. here's mitt romney back in august telling scott pelly of "06 minutes" that he believes abortion should be allowed to protect a woman's health. seriously? mitt romney thinks abortion is okay if a woman's health is in danger? no, not really. his campaign later said, no, never mind what mitt romney just said. he does not believe abortion should be allowed to protect a woman's health. okay. then in september, here was mitt romney telling david gregory on "meet the press" that he's not going to repeal all of obama care. he says he will keep part of obama care. but the par
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 10:00am PDT
. feeling the love. what are the expectations coming from the romney campaign for paul ryan's big night tonight? here what happens his senior adviser, dan senor told chuck todd this morning, when it was really cold. >> he has to make the case about the choice in the election, all right? things have been rough over the last four years and it's incumbent on president obama and vice president biden to explain what exactly has happened over the last four years 23 million americans out of work, 47 million americans on food stamps 1 in 6 americans in poverty have them explain the rational for why they deserve a second term. there is a choice as it relates to the budgets, they are running on the romney/ryan agenda. governor romney laid out a plan, his five-point plan for the middle class. >> nbc's ron mott has been covering congressman ryan throughout and traveling with him and interviewing dan senor as well, and joins me now here. you've been with ryan camp. what is the mood? they must have gotten pumped up. >> totally. >> by the romney performance. now there's a whole expectation game for th
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 9:00am PDT
't run the numbers on that specific plan. >> since the romney upgrade the ryan model has been buggy. >> doesn't your budget also cop template major savings for medicare on something like the same amount? >> only president obama raids $716 billion from the medicare program, he cut $716 from the medicare program to pay for obama care. >> right. >> we don't do that. >> you make savings, how much? >> point -- we -- i joined the romney ticket and what mitt romney is proposing to do is repeal all of obama care. >> more than a month later, rhine's quant programs are in need of a software update. >> how much in its revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans' tax rates. >> how much does it cost? >> revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away deductions. >> that's where i'm going. >> we're going to get to that. >> lowering tax rates broadening the tax base works you -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> worse stil
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 6:00am PDT
troubling by the day. they first blame the youtube video and now they are trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> one of the few rabbit holes that ryan got sucked into was afghanistan and though ryan proved that he had knowledge about the war, he wanted to commit more troops to an open-ended deployment in what is an unpopular war. >> we are sending fewer people to the front to fight them. >> that's right. because that's the afghan responsibility. we've trained them. >> not in the east. >> let's move -- let move to another war. >> not in the east? >> it's the most dangerous place in the world. >> that's right. >> you would rather americans being sent in to do the jobs. >> we are already sending more americans in to do the jobs. >> afghans to do the job. afghans to do the job. >> there were tense moments like that, including where biden came close to channelling lloyd benson's famous attack on dan quayle. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve -- >> not mathematically possible. >> it is possible and it's been done before. >> it has never been done bef
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 9:00am PDT
that paul ryan and mitt romney are stumping there today. >> i'm curious, mike, why the president isn't able to just stay in the white house. is it because the oval office duties beckon too much? or does he go to virginia because he wants to do a campaign stop here and there? >> reporter: i think it's got a lot to do with it. it's a two-fer. there are no public events on the president's schedule in virginia. there were no events in nevada we were told about. but he did go to hoover dam, has photo ops. so it's a side benefit. it's like a camp, a retreat where they can concentrate on what they need to do tuesday night. >> i wonder if he's planning like a five guys outing, you know? >> reporter: could be. he loves his burgers. no questions. >> before i let you go, mike, can i just ask you, the ten or of things going into this debate prep? how stressful do you sense the white house is about this when you combine both the president's performance last week and then joe biden's this? maybe it picked up a little bit they think with joe biden. >> i think there's a sense of relief that biden did what
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 3:00pm PDT
but his macho vision for the country will and it should. ryan and romney are pushing a radical remaking of the social contract that americans have relied on for many decades. it's a investigation that includes a budget where 62% of the cuts come from the poor. cuts to medicaid, cuts to food stamps, pell grants, all while cuts to the defense department and oil industry continue as usual. ryan will have to defend that record tonight and he'll have to defend comments like these. >> before too long we could become a society that we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the majority of americans are makers, not takers. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> takers and makers. it's a distorted view of the american people and a deeply cynical one and it will be challenged tonight by another view. >> we have a fundamentally different values set than these guys do. we believe america does well. america's always prospered when hard work is rewarded. when everyone has a fair shot. everyone plays by the same rules. everyone gets a fair shake.
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 1:00am PDT
? was there a time you didn't have a lot of money? is that because you have bad character? if i were the romney/ryan campaign i would probably try to trash that reporter too. but that wasn't all that happened here. >> if you take a look at the gun laws we have, i don't think president obama is proposing more gun laws. we have strong gun laws. >> that's news too. it's especially news in light of the fact that it the nra is currently running these ads in a bunch of swing states. it's a huge ad buy too. they say chipping away at your right, chipping away at your freedom. now they are attacking our second amendment rights. you can stop them right now. defend freedom. defeat obama. that's what the ads say. but then there's paul ryan, the republican vice presidential nominee saying president obama is not proposing any attack on gun rights. he's not proposing anymore gun laws. that's true. the only gun-related changes in law we have had from president obama have been expansions of gun rights. but the republicans are not supposed to admit that. not when the nra is running this scary ad camp
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 3:00pm PDT
. >> romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children by an additional $2,000 a year. >> don't tell me what you value. show me your budget and i'll tell you what the value. >>> vice president biden will have some serious things to say this thursday. joining me is steve carnaci, co-host of "the cycle. he's writing in "salon" today about paul ryan's thing skin. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me. is he ready for joe biden? >> it's an open question. one thing we found is he hasn't been ready forred kind of scrutiny that comes with a national spot light. there have been several interviews, in what we all assumed would be friendly turf fox news where at the slightest bit of scrutiny on follow-up questions he's gotten very testy and evasive. you can think of early on back in august in an interview, how long it would take mitt romney's budget to be balance. he said i don't want to be all wonky on you, but i don't know. and chris wallace started grilling him, a promise it will be deficit neutral and very va
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 8:00am PDT
to the facts. but expect paul ryan to come out and lie just as much as mitt romney did last week. that's what i expect. >> the swing voters as well as the base, to they expect more about substance or style? >> first of all, no one in this country has made the case that vice president joe biden has done a bad job. the country knows who this man is. they know his background, they know he didn't go to the united states senate to be a millionaire. he went there to work on behalf of the people. so there's a lot of people that will expect a lot out of joe biden because they know who he is. but he'll be presenting the case that where we were and where we're going is great for america. and there is absolutely no question that if the chairman of the house budget committee, if he's all about numbers, he's not going to be able to deny what skr joe biden will say tonight. >> will we see a lot of zingers? >> what's a zinger, a fact? a fact of what the country wants, a fact of what we've been able to accomplish, the automobile loan? yesterday on the stump, paul ryan was trying to make the case that they're f
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 12:00pm PDT
. today the shoe is on the other food for obama/biden and romney/ryan. last week it was the president's team facing high expectations. this week it is paul ryan who is expected to perform well. last week the stakes were monumental for the romney team who desperately needed a strong performance to overcome weeks of mistakes, bad polls and republican hand wringing. this week it is team obama facing high stakes to stop the bleeding and quiet the lamenting of freaked out democrats who were disappointed with last week's apathetic performance. the stylistic shoe may be on the other foot as well. ryan like obama can come across as cerebral and distant. one last thing, while the pressure is on for biden, a lot is at stake for ryan too. while he is well known by inside the belt way crowd, the national audience is just getting to know ryan. his unnecessary bending of the truth sullied his reputation. this is take two for ryan to make a favorable impression and to preserve his own future regardless of whether the romney ryan ticket. this is happening in kentucky, a state known for derby, bourbon
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 12:00pm PDT
. >> like paul ryan, mitt romney also in ohio today. he is holding a pair of rallies, an indication of how critical the buckeye state and its 18 electoral votes are. president obama in virginia where he'll be preparing for the next campaign. the obama campaign has another tv ad out. it's narrated by none other than morgan freeman, the voice of vee a and the voice of god. >> every president inherits challenges. few have faced so many. four years later, our enemies have been brought to justice, our heros are coming home. assembly lines are humming again. >> and before you start sending your e-mails, the morgan freeman, of course, played god in "bruce almighty," just so you know. >>> the president landed in virginia a few moments ago. we're told he has no public meeting plans. kristen welker joining us. krist kristen, good saturday to you. >> good saturday to you. >> the president hunkering down for debate prep. what are you hearing about what he plans to do a little bit differently this time? >> reporter: well, craig, after that first debate, top obama campaign advisers said they were going
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 1:00pm PDT
will the romney/ryan plan help job creation. he didn't answer it. he attacked the obama administration. that's what we see time and time again by the radical romney plan is that they have no specifics. the fact of the matter is over the last 31 months, we've had private sector job growth, created 5.1 million new jobs. and as of last friday, we had the lowest unemployment rate we've enjoyed in the last four years. does more need to happen? of course it does. but that's why the president is going to win virginia, because he is talking about growing the middle class out and talking about job creation and strengthening our economy in ways that will invest for the future. he has a plan. the other side doesn't. it's resonating in virginia. and we're going to make history again in virginia and deliver to it barack obama. >> corey, the thinking was at the beginning of this campaign, the thinking was that the governor would be able to essentially run on the economy, that the unemployment numbers and that people's perceptions of the economy, that they were going to be in such shambles that that was go
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 1:00pm PDT
the people tuning in right now. they're seeing a very different race and different paul ryan and romney than we have been watching for the entire past few months. if you just tuned in now, i think you might think mitt romney was a centrist which he has not been for the past year or so. if you are just tuning in, you might think paul ryan had pretty blue eyes and a set of solutions to aur. i don't know how biden is going to handle this. he's such a straight shooter, but maybe a straight shooter from the hip if i can mix metaphors. i'm not sure if he'll get frustrated, if he'll get angry, if he will just laugh it off, if he will come off as condescending. it will be interesting to see. >> right. clarence, "the washington post" spoke to republican voters in ohio, one of whom said of paul ryan's chances against joe biden, and i'm quoting the person, i think ryan is going to eat him alive. another said, he's dynamic, he knows his facts. do you think this is going to be a washout and that mr. ryan is literally going to trounce biden? >> i was pretty amused by that story, martin, because we were at
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 11:00am PDT
been told by romney and ryan. i want to play what congressman ryan said at the rnc, a line that drew a lot of attention when he talked about a gm plant that he blamed the president for closing. let me play that moment from the rnc. >> when he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in janesville where we were about to lose a major factory. right there at that plant candidate obama said, i believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years. that's what he said in 2008. well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year. >> mark, there are even conservatives who refer to that speech as being one of the most dishonest that they had seen. chris is talking about bringing the fight. how do you keep from going back and forth? will the moderator have to be the quote, unquote, fact checker in this? >> sometimes the best moderators stay away. i think it's incumbent on vice president biden. we saw president obama try to correct the record the next day after last week's debate, but that wasn't as effective. >>
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 11:00am PDT
presidential debate, and this is why mitt romney and paul ryan are spending so much time in the buckeye state. 51%, 45%. they are both there today. we're going to listen to mitt romney live in just a moment. topping our political headlines, though, within the hour, president obama is scheduled to land in newport, virginia, he's on his way to williamsburg where he's preparing for tuesday. he used the radio and internet address to focus on the economy, touting the impact of the bailout. >> to let detroit go bankrupt. i bet on american work and ingenuity and three years later that bet is paying off in a big kwa. today auto sales are higher thain even about been in three years. gm is back. ford and chrysler are growing again. we've created a quart ore of a a million new jobs right here in america. >> mitt romney holding a rally in ohio. this hour. it's about to get under way. in fact, we're going get a live update from the campaign trail in just a moment. in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >>
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 12:00pm PDT
. >> paul ryan was trying to praise romney's career as governor in massachusetts. and biden said, wait a minute he's not even competing there, he can't carry his own state. and the republicans have been making a lot about his bipartisanship. he was able to get along with the democratic legitimate slate stur. the democrats in the legislate stur were far more cooperative with the republican governor than the republicans are today with the democratic president. >> let's turn to the state we can't seem to talk enough about, ohio, the buckeye state. both candidates doing anything they can to win over specifically michael smerkonish, working-class voters in ohio. for romney, that's about calling out obama for being weak on china, this is yesterday. >> we're going to do this, we're going to make sure when people cheat and china has been cheating, we're not going to let it go on. i'm not going to pass it off. on day one i will label china a currency manipulator and we're going to get serious when we make sure that people don't cheat when it comes to trade. >> is that a message that's going to
MSNBC
Oct 7, 2012 12:00pm PDT
the romney/ryan campaign raised last night in milwaukee. we look at how the money will get put to work. topping the political headlines, a whole new round of fire on the sunday morning talk shows over -- the debate. tell you how nbc's "meet the press," senior obama campaign adviser robert gibbs conceded the president could have done better and also took aim at governor romney. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying that mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> former speaker and republican candidate newt gingrich said this morning that president obama has no excuse. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared and actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? i mean why didn't he take romney head-on? the job of the president is supposed to be competent and be
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 5:00pm PDT
what he needs to do is tie paul ryan around mitt romney's neck like a mill stone. paul ryan's policies are deadly unpopular and he's basically been allowed to kind of get away with it and paper over what he believes and what mitt romney believes. but paul ryan is just a terrible deficit for the ticket. the other thing is it is a base election. when we get to this point when we're looking at likely voters, ours are less likely to turn out. they are the young, they are the disadvantaged, they are the new citizens who haven't made a habit of voting. if we see an electorate like in 2008, barack obama wins. if we saw the one from 2010, he loses. so we talk about the independent swing voters all the time but think this is coming back down to the base for both sides. >> i think the obama team has been brilliant on the basics throughout all of this. but one of the basics they can't get away from is the 47% video. i think that is who mitt romney is. and i don't think they can allow him to escape these comments. he said these comments behind closed doors to people he needed their support and mon
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 11:00am PDT
the romney campaign chose to start this week with that big foreign policy speech. congressman ryan uttered the same words that the obama administration has been weak and libya and syria have been mishandled. here's congressman ryan fakes off on one of the deans of foreign policy for this administration. >> i think a tremendous disadvantage for congressman ryan, as it will be for governor romney when he faces off against the president on foreign affairs. i think joe biden will make sure they don't stray from the truth. in yesterday's speech somewhat unbelievably to me after all the contention about misstatements, governor romney made two significant misstatements again shows a disregard for the facts. one he said, tamron, there was no discussion of terrorism in the 2008 debates. we saw last night on msnbc they played the tape. >> there's tape to prove he wasn't accurate. >> 40 mentions of terrorism in that debate, and he said president obama hasn't signed a single free-trade agreement, when, in fact, he signed three. joe biden won't let him get away with it. going back to domestic policy fo
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 10:00am PDT
/biden team you'll get another four years like the last four years with the romney/ryan team, a real recovery with more jobs for everybody. >> now politico is reporting today that ann romney and tagg his son, one of his sons did an intervention to try to save the campaign if you will and let mitt be mitt and get the candidate to talk more about himself, talk more emotionally to give the foreign policy speech. in pushing back against some of the staff. can you help us out on that? what is the -- your perspective about it? >> i saw the story. it's a silly little story. there's no truth to it. we're focused on big things. yesterday the governor gave a speech where he talked about some of the very real foreign policy challenges facing us. he talked about building 15 ships a year so we can build up our navy. he talked about the importance of reforming our foreign assistance and linking it to positive outcomes. he talked about stopping iran's reckless pursuit for a nuclear weapon. these are the issues and the challenges that we're focused on. we're not distracted by some of the nonsense stories tha
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 11:00am PDT
romney and ryan support preserving tax cuts for all the capital gains and carried interest. everything else, my friend, your mortgage interest tax deduction and everything else is on table. >> okay. if that was the high point of joe biden talking about the economy last night we have a long way to go. americans still don't believe the stimulus worked. we're dealing with the weak economy. that's reality to people. >> but we also know , jonathan, let me jump in here. congressman ryan, they heard that he asked for stimulus money. are democrats now fired up? we were in kentucky live. we talked to people all day, talked to people this morning. i found it intriguing that people have been criticizing joe biden. we clearly know what his mission was. i even said we should play the music from "mission: impossible" and show his face. his commission was clear, he opened the envelope, he read it, it get get 'em and he did. obviously conservatives would not like that tone, not like that congressman ryan was interrupted, i believe they said like 17 times. who's counting. the bottom line, david, was it
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 5:00pm PDT
, the romney/ryan budget would make it tougher on hard working americans. >> that was the democratic national convention last month. campbell and her group will be kicking off another leg of their anti-poverty tour. this take making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a straight answer on exactly what his tax plan is for the the wealthy. romney campaigned on giving the mega rich a tax cut. his website backs him up. yet at the debate, romney claimed the opposite. >> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> analysis from the nonpartisan tax policy center found romney's plan would cost the country $5 trillion over the the next ten years. romney's friends at fox news say romney doesn't have to explain his fuzzy math. here's chris wallace defending romney's flip-flop to governor martin o'malley. >> the president keeps saying that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not true. >> chris, wait a minute here. former governor is proposing a cut to income taxes including for the wealthi
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 8:00pm PDT
for their families. in order to cut taxes for the wealthy. the romney ryan budget would make it even tougher on hard-working americans. >> that sistercy moan campbell speaking at the democratic convention last month. her group, nuns on the bus, will kick off another leg of their anti-pof tir tour. this time making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a straight answer on exactly what his plan is for the wealthy. he campaigned on giving the mega rich a tax cut. his website backs him up. yet at the debate, romney claimed the opposite. >> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said, i'm not in favor after $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> a romney's plan could cost the country $5 trillion over the next five years. his friends at fox news says he doesn't have to explain his fuzzy math. here is chris wallace depending romney's flip-flop to o'malley. >> the president says that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not true. >> kras, wait a minute here. the governor -- i mean, former gove
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 8:00am PDT
think part of reminding people about big bird does, how ridiculous the rhetoric from the romney/ryan campaign is, but also the idea that, so, you're going to cut something that we know is effective and works and helps our kids prepare for the future, but you're going to continue to give subsidies to big oil? that doesn't make sense. so, i do think that there is a seriousness to this conversation and i think biden is the kind of guy who can bring that right balance to the debate. >> all right, so, one thing in an interview, congressman ryan did talk about his nerves playing into effect for thursday. take a look. >> joe biden's one of the best debaters we've seen in modern politics. he's been doing this for 40 years. he ran for president twice, he's the sitting vice president. it's my first time on the national stage like this, so i'm playing -- >> nervous? >> sure, of course i'm a little nervous. everybody's nervous about something like this. i bet joe biden's a little nervous. >> joe, i want to ask you about this. he will be a formidable opponent as far as knowing the inside baseball
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 8:00am PDT
in the toledo area. obviously, ohio's an important state to the romney-ryan ticket. we expect paul ryan to stick to the standard substance with the five-point plan to put the middle class back to work and also going by the performance last week of governor romney. particular has a couple of events. one here in the at least area and then we're heading off to the detroit area for an afternoon event and don't expect to see him until thursday and sets up the debate against vice president biden and the past couple of days we asked how much is he prepared to meet someone with more experience. he says he knows that vice president biden will come in aggressively and maybe particularly because of the president's performance last wednesday's event in denver and he is reading briefing books, talking about issues around the country and around the world. paul ryan knows that this is a very big week for him. perhaps the biggest of his entire political career. people need to see the american voters watching that debate on thursday and see him in the vice presidential light and probably not enough for him to be
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 3:00am PDT
, comparing with that of romney and ryan. steve. >> so romney and ryan do have somewhat different plans. we talked a lot in the debate last week about taxes. this is the spending side of the equation. to kind of lay out apropos conversations we had earlier in the show about what ryan and romney each believe about spending, let's start with kind of an overview of where the three people would like to bring spending over the next ten years. the 20-year historical average is at about 21%,ed red line that you see across there. obama would like to have spending end up at 23%. romney and ryan both want it down at 20%. so there's a clear difference, and they all agree on where it should go. what gets interesting is as you dig into the detail of what gets cut, and you'll see some very, i think, fascinating differences among these guys. so on social security, as you heard president obama say in the last debate, the three guys are actually in the same place. they want to spend the same amount on social security in the next ten years. when you get to medicare, romney and ryan are in the same place, but
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Oct 13, 2012 4:00am PDT
ryan left for him to exploit when he faces mitt romney? >> i think what you're going to see is he's going to ask for specifics on tuesday night. he's going to push him on the tax plan. he's also going to push the famous 47% line. you know, democrats really were upset that he didn't use that line of attack before. vice president biden sort of opened the door for him to do that on tuesday. i think you're going to see more a more aggressive obama take that stance a little more. >> but the fact that the president didn't go after him during the debate on the 47% and the fact that mitt romney first thing out of the gate, the next morning, was was saying it was a mistake, that was wrong of me to say that, is that going to blunt the effectiveness of the president using that? >> i don't think so. they've been attacking him. they've been saying this is a choice. he doesn't speak for the middle class. their side does. so i think that you're going to continue to see that line of attack from them. >> okay. david. what about the libya attack question? i mean, how is the administration been appr
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Oct 9, 2012 1:00pm PDT
, meaning the very real personal costs of the things that romney and ryan are talking about? and i think that's part of what the president needs to be doing. i think it's what the campaign is doing here in this ad is to say, if you're going to make this cut, let's talk about the reality of what that's going to mean for people. you want to, you know, go invade iran, okay. are we all ready to see more caskets coming into dover, delaware? are we really ready to send men and women in uniform to another front in the war? you're going to make all of these cuts and how is that going to add up? it's not going to add up. here are the places where those cuts are going to have to come from. i think bringing it back to real terms, because, again, i think romney won't have the answer essentially. david is right. he has 9 top line -- >> i don't agree with you. romney's answer is very clear, ask me on the 7th of november. >> his answer is always no, it's not. >> exactly. >> because i said to. >> karen, david, and richard, thank you both. thank you all. next, paul ryan can't stand the heat and it may on
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Oct 9, 2012 2:00pm PDT
. >> paul ryan just days before the debate last week directly contradicted romney. ryan said lowering the tax rates was more important than anything else, including getting rid of those deductions to pay for them supposedly. let's watch. >> what's most important to romney, what would he scale back on the 20% tax cut for the wealthy? would he scale back and say, okay, we're going to have to raise taxes for the middle class? i guess the question is what's most important to him in his tax reform plan -- >> keeping tax rates down. by lowering tax rates, people keep more of the next dollar they earn. >> that's more important -- >> that's more important than anything. >> in other words, it is, in fact, a tax cut. it's not a tax caught offset by deductions. it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will add to the deficit. there isn't a single credi
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Oct 14, 2012 5:00am PDT
committee of coke companies. you can see listed their favored candidates, mitt romney and paul ryan. we asked them for comment. he said to encourage employees to be informed, coke mailed a letter to their 50,000 u.s. based employees, makes clear the decisions about which candidates to support are up to each employee and based on factors important to him or her. the information they request, voter registration deadline, voting deadlines and a list of candidates supported by coke companies. it's no surprise, of course, the coke brothers support romney for president. they promised to spend $400 million for americans for prosperity to prevent president obama from winning a second term. they raise questions about the propryettery. agreed ceos marshalling the support of those who work for them. west gate resort ceo david segal e-mailed employees saying he'll have no choice but fire people if president obama is reelected and his tax rates go up. it doesn't pose a threat to your job. what does is another four years of the same presidential administration. if taxes are levied on me or my company
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Oct 11, 2012 7:00am PDT
and to defend romney's record. but if this ticket were to lose, paul ryan has a long future in bomb ticks or he certainly would like to hope that and i think that's a fair idea. and, therefore, he wants to come out of this with his integrity intact and with his own positions intact. and i think biden will play that like a wedge trying to either get ryan to abandon his own record or to abandon his own record or to embrace romney and then he'll go after that. >> there's one question that in every vice presidential debate i think is the key question for a lot of voters out there, and that is this guy's going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. am i comfortable with that. and we can have a little fun with it, maybe you saw these pictures from "time" magazine today. but i think when you see paul ryan and these are pictures of him working out, it does speak a little bit to what has been written a lot about, which is the generational divide. and experience divide, as well. either really on on the surface or subconsciously, do you think that's a big deal here? >> i don't. i think both of these
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Oct 14, 2012 9:00am PDT
for mitt romney and paul ryan. >> i don't think they're politicizing it. i'm not saying that because folks expect me to say that. i think will are questions about the time clock here, the unfolding of events. i appreciate the view that yes, it's been brief, but why? the first assassination of an ambassador -- u.s. ambassador, in close to 40 years. going unscathed. and to have all this bubble at this moment, i think the congress needs to get up to speed. the white house needs to be more forthcoming. the white house has created this store by the way they handled it coming out it have box. i give you the too many capsule and when the government spoke on it. but the reality is what they said initially and the facts have not lined up. they need to make it less of a story. to make it less politicized, and certainly the romney team rightly is talking about this. it's amazing tht front and center. >> to that same end, if what republicans are saying is true that the obama officials were trickling out the bad news then respect they politicizing the story as well? >> this is a ridiculous story. i lik
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Oct 10, 2012 8:00am PDT
a call from romney's running mate, paul ryan, thanking her for her public support and dash joins a list of african-american who are supporting the republican ticket and as my next guest can discuss in detail, wendy wilson, news editor for "ens" magazine and wrote a feature story about six african-american women who say they are going to vote for mitt romney. it is great to have you here. stacey dash, who a lot of gen-x'ers will know from her role in "louless." she said in an interview she voted for president obama in '08. he likes what romney has in value giving him a shot this time around. is that when you are hearing from african-american women that might have a different view of who they want on vote for this time? >> you know, not necessarily. the women that i interviewed were at the republican national convention. i have to say it was than easy finding them. i interviewed six women that are supporters of mitt romney and are supporting him mainly because of lower taxes and lower big government and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to hel
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Oct 7, 2012 9:00am PDT
about the math for this. and paul ryan said look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution, he just decided there was not math involved in this problem. and that is absolutely crazy, the only thing he outlined in the budget, that he would cut is big bird. he has taken to sesame street and let wall street run wild. >> if you impose this debt on future generations, and big bird, i can tell you as the father of three children grown now, but any father who has gone to a toy store knows that big bird is a pretty commercially successful. and whether or not we should subsidize it, and say it is not that big of a percentage of the budget, that is true, but every penny that you raise as a cut, seems to be sacred with this administration, and they can't cut it. and i think the american people understand this is a big election and a big choice. >> meanwhile, the big debate about the presidential debate has spilled into a second week. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared and actually studied romney, why didn't he s
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Oct 10, 2012 3:00pm PDT
, paul ryan, the vice presidential candidate chosen by mitt romney and todd akin co-sponsored a bill called, the no taxpayer funded abortion toll tha would limit what would be considered rape, that funds could only be used for forceable rape, which has been the controversy around akin. >> right. and paul ryan co-sponsored it. >> co-sponsored it. >> co-sponsored it. not just supported it. and this is what is so incredible, that now the anti-choice people are so -- they smell victory and they are letting romney get away with this flip-flopping. so instead of calling him on the carpet and saying, what do you mean? we all know what he meant because we know he's going to be a pro life president. >> they think that he's going to win. once he's in, i think that they think they can have a claim on him. that is historically where they've gotten their absolute victories. >> scary. joan walsh and irin carmon, thank you for your time tonight. >>> coming up, no more mr. nice guy. president obama is getting revved up for the next debate and says he's learned from the last one. >> governor romney h
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Oct 10, 2012 7:00am PDT
week. no doubt about that. but again, i think clearly governor romney got a bounce out of last week's debate. i think what will sharpen the focus of the american people tomorrow night, we will see joe biden talk about the devastating dimensions of the rather/ryan budget proposals. and i think that over the next debate presidential debate when we talk about foreign policy, the american people will get a much clearer view of who they want leading this country and international affairs. it is not mitt romney who has no clue what's going on around the world. yeah, i'm worried. i'm anxious now. i think things will get better. >> a little bit anxious or maybe a little more than that? >> just a little bit anxious. i think it is much too early to panic. >> well, let me ask you about something because you are on the budget committee and i want to go back to the vice presidential debate. there is a report in "the new york times" this morning about the so-called fiscal cliff that -- it may actually be more slow, economists say that the effect of the tax cuts inspiring would be a powerful but g
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Oct 11, 2012 2:30am PDT
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Oct 9, 2012 6:00am PDT
romney. >>> kentucky derby, all eyes turn to the bluegrass state. how much pressure faces paul ryan. and this morning, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky finds out if he'll spend the rest of his life in prison on 45 counts of child sex abuse, he already put out a taped statement denying it all. we'll have the latest from the courthouse as soon as it happens. it is happening within minutes there in pennsylvania. >>> good morning from washington, it's four weeks until election day, tuesday, october 10. will romney serve in national polling translate into gains where it really matters t battleground states, the mimpb battleground states of iowa, wisconsin and ohio. romney will not be president unless he can put these states in play. in a new pew poll conducted since wednesday. just last month in the same poll, romney trailed by eight points. driving romney surge, a spike in republican enthusiasm, more republicans made it through pew's likely voter screen than democrats. and a larger group of registered voters, the candidates are tied at 46. while it's unlikely returns on e
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Oct 8, 2012 6:00am PDT
of opportunities with the ryan budget. the challenge for the president is he didn't take, didn't hold mitt romney to his positions. he can hold paul ryan to his positions, vice president can hold him to his positions without, you know, being seen as overly aggressive. needs smiles and jokes as he does it. that is a target-rich environment and i think he should take the targets. >> what kind of vibe do you expect? >> aggressive biden. >> shameless plugs? >> i'm going to plug eli lake, all over this libya story. >> yes, he has. >> another one today on information that e-mails come paining about the security of the embassy there. he's a must read every day. >> security situation and all fingers point to the state department. >> i'm going to be original and plug dean progress at 150,000 -- 160,000 followers and hoping for to 0,000. >> twitter? >> yes. i'm on twitter. on twitter. >> help you with the plug. >> issues week of "the washington post" every day we're doing a big take-out two pages on the differences between the candidates on the issues. >> today is? >> economy. >> thank you very much. that'
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Oct 9, 2012 7:00pm PDT
biden in this debate this week? >> i think we want vice president biden to hang paul ryan budget around his and governor romney's neck. that budget is terrible for the working middle class in this country. it voucherizes medicare, it slass medicaid, it cuts pell grants, it gives tax cuts to really really rich people. mitt romney called it a marvelus budget. i want the vice president to take that budget and literally drape it around paul ryan's neck. >> richard wolfe, there has been information in the polls this week that romney's campaign was going the other way. but when you look at the way it's lining up, it looks like very little movement. >> if history is any press tant, he's got fall bounce, now the debate is turning not towards the performance of the theatrics, but to the actual policies. what these presidents would look like. when you look at ohio, you're not just talking about any battle ground state. you're talking about a strongly manufacturing based economy that has done well. where the unemployment rate is below the national average, and the economic trend through this whole
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